Saturday, June 25, 2011

We're ALL New Yorkers now!

Just wanted to remind some of our more conservative and/or backwards Americans what they themselves were declaring just 10 years ago!

The second most populous state in the Union now gives gay and lesbian couples the same rights as straight couples - like most of the enlightened world. New York is now the 6th state to legalize gay marriage, and California (the most populous state) will again join decent humanity, as soon as Prop 8 runs out of appeals (or its proponents are simply informed that they have no standing).

Those of you who continue to oppose this should at least be honest. There is no reason to do so, other than a religious reason. That's not good enough. If your god is against homosexuality, then your obvious action is - not to marry someone of the same sex. What others do is their business.


Spanish Inquisitor said...

The one thing that I fear here, and I can see the beginnings of it, is that the individual states will polarize, and we could have an all out civil war. Not a violent one (though there would be elements of that) but a cultural one. Literally, state against state.

Take Gay marriage. The more progressive states will probably fall in line behind New York and California. I could see another 20 states, mostly in the Northeast and West (yes, blue states) doing so. If you are gay, committed and want the right to marry, you'll probably move there. That's why San Francisco and Cape Cod have such a high proportion of gays, because they are tolerant, and have been so for quite some time, and attract people who crave tolerance.

Take abortion. Same thing, especially if the Supreme Court overrules Roe v. Wade, which given it's current makeup is a very distinct possibility. What will happen is that the states will then be free to criminalize or allow abortions as they see fit, and women who want them will have to hope they live in those states, or move there.

And the pro choice and pro marriage states will probably be the same states.

So there will be a number of states in one "liberal" or "progressive" camp, and another number (most of the south) in the "bigotry" and "religion" camp. And if their borders are contiguous, you'll find each state making life difficult for those on the other side of the border.

And that will be a war.

John Evo said...

Have to agree with your concerns. We've been headed in this direction for many decades and it seems to get acrimonious, not less.

If you throw in a general economic collapse, with the Fed unable to fulfill it's obligations, individual states will feel that much more determined to splinter, based along ideological lines. Texas has certainly been making some of those sounds in the past few years and I doubt it's over.

Guess you're kind of a borderline state? You might split down the middle. Move a little East, SI. ;)

Tommykey said...

So there will be a number of states in one "liberal" or "progressive" camp, and another number (most of the south) in the "bigotry" and "religion" camp.

You might even see a reply of the Kansas/Nebraska scenario from before the civil war. States that have are are considering extremely restrictive anti-abortion laws like South Dakota do not have a lot of people in them. If you could get some thousands of blue staters to move there and register to vote there to elect more liberal candidates, then red staters might try to move there to counteract it. That's what happened with pre-Civil War Kansas. Both abolitionists and advocates for slavery tried to settle there to make the state either a free state or a slave state.

John Evo said...

"May you live in interesting times". ;)